tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7806136543904112143.post1486981677662000077..comments2023-10-30T09:23:42.803-05:00Comments on Some Assembly Required: SAR #9325Charles Kingsley Michaelson, IIIhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04364694465614330540noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7806136543904112143.post-10441004209425369222009-11-21T15:47:52.419-06:002009-11-21T15:47:52.419-06:00Yada yada yada...Yada yada yada...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7806136543904112143.post-86701112658878853272009-11-20T23:40:02.115-06:002009-11-20T23:40:02.115-06:00For those who actually want to understand the scie...For those who actually want to understand the science behind global climate change, I have added three of my favorite science sites to The List: Climate Progress, Real Climate. and Skeptical Science. <br /><br />If you want to bitch and whine about global warming, resist the urge to blather here and spend the time at one of these sites soakingup a little bit of the actual science.<br />ckmCharles Kingsley Michaelson, IIIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04364694465614330540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7806136543904112143.post-40217921388186067292009-11-20T22:20:22.406-06:002009-11-20T22:20:22.406-06:00Even the lefty German paper Der Spiegel is questio...Even the lefty German paper Der Spiegel is questioning global warming. <br /><br />http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,662092,00.html<br /><br /><b><i>Global warming appears to have stalled. Climatologists are puzzled as to why average global temperatures have stopped rising over the last 10 years. Some attribute the trend to a lack of sunspots, while others explain it through ocean currents.<br /><br />At least the weather in Copenhagen is likely to be cooperating. The Danish Meteorological Institute predicts that temperatures in December, when the city will host the United Nations Climate Change Conference, will be one degree above the long-term average.<br /><br />Otherwise, however, not much is happening with global warming at the moment. The Earth's average temperatures have stopped climbing since the beginning of the millennium, and it even looks as though global warming could come to a standstill this year.<br /><br />Ironically, climate change appears to have stalled in the run-up to the upcoming world summit in the Danish capital, where thousands of politicians, bureaucrats, scientists, business leaders and environmental activists plan to negotiate a reduction in greenhouse gas emissions. Billions of euros are at stake in the negotiations.</i></b><br /><br />Billions of euros are at stake? I wonder when it will occur to anyone that "billions of euros are stake" might have something to do with "the science is settled."<br /><br />The same folks who believe George W. Bush starts wars in order to goose Haliburton's stock price by half a point don't ever consider that billions of euros being at stake might induce someone to deliberately fudge a regression analysis.<br /><br />Go figure.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7806136543904112143.post-80861405297454589452009-11-20T19:51:14.533-06:002009-11-20T19:51:14.533-06:00Anony 4:30 - You'll have to be happy with kwar...Anony 4:30 - You'll have to be happy with kwark's reply. I've just spent three hours on "the scandal" and find nothing in it that challenges climate science as published in thousands of peer-reviewed journals. That scientists, myself and my son excepted, are competitive and emotional is shocking to learn, but doesn't change their results. And that's as much effort as this tempest gets from me.<br />ckmCharles Kingsley Michaelson, IIIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04364694465614330540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7806136543904112143.post-46947721586806164792009-11-20T19:22:08.874-06:002009-11-20T19:22:08.874-06:00Anonymous:
Yah, you know those climate scientist...<b>Anonymous:</b> <br /><br />Yah, you know those climate scientist types, only faking the data to get more and better grants so they can vacation in the Bahamas and drive fancy sports cars. How pathetic that a primary tactic in the so-called "climate debate" is to challenge the veracity and ethics of the scientists. But then challenging the data is a sure way to loose so what the hell.kwarknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7806136543904112143.post-62918047025848176442009-11-20T19:20:35.549-06:002009-11-20T19:20:35.549-06:00RBM Your willful and disingenuous misunderstandin...RBM Your willful and disingenuous misunderstanding the nature of science weakens your emotional attacks on science and it's practice. In the sense that it only takes one exception to overthrow a scientific theorem or theory, then no science is "settled". Progess in science is made by unsettling the settled. but you know all this and are intent on entertaining yourself, not enlightening others.<br />ckmCharles Kingsley Michaelson, IIIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04364694465614330540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7806136543904112143.post-52058544360359856872009-11-20T18:14:51.514-06:002009-11-20T18:14:51.514-06:00CK:
If we know it's imperfect can we please s...CK:<br /><br />If we know it's imperfect can we please stop saying "the science is settled"<br /><br />RBMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7806136543904112143.post-66324503668847687722009-11-20T16:30:36.334-06:002009-11-20T16:30:36.334-06:00Uh oh: global warming fraud?
http://tinyurl.com/y...Uh oh: global warming fraud?<br /><br />http://tinyurl.com/yhdua5w<br /><br />To the average person, most scientific theories aren't very exciting. To scientists, they obviously are. And to political opportunists, they also can be, as is the case with global warming, climate change or whatever the name du jour happens to be. <br /><br />But what everyone finds interesting (and therefore captures their attention) is deception, conspiracy, arrogance, and other forms of bad behavior.<br /><br />Indeed, that's why Michael Crichton didn't write a dry scientific book about the cult of global warming. He wrote a fictive thriller, filled with... deception, conspiracy, arrogance, and other forms of bad behavior.<br /><br />That's why this story may have legs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7806136543904112143.post-26820486943513307112009-11-20T14:44:21.669-06:002009-11-20T14:44:21.669-06:00RBM - I rather think the point is not that science...RBM - I rather think the point is not that science is imperfect - it is - but that it is self-correcting, getting better by refining and extending knowledge. Unlike fairy tales. Of course the climate models are not perfect; they are better than they were a year ago and the year before. Science is the process of refining the truth by identifying error. Finding errors is the way science makes progress.<br />ckmCharles Kingsley Michaelson, IIIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04364694465614330540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7806136543904112143.post-85322996815626901672009-11-20T11:43:43.023-06:002009-11-20T11:43:43.023-06:00RE: How long is a yardstick?
Those wacky Scient...RE: How long is a yardstick? <br /><br />Those wacky Scientists! Thank God they know so much and are just so smart and want to help us fight Global Warming. Which is coming, any day now, or maybe it's here, or maybe not or maybe it's just on hold or maybe the climate models aren't quite as good as we thought or or or....<br /><br /><br />RBMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com